"Mystery of the Ordinary, Turning Everyday Life Into Page-Turning Fiction." With Bob Jung, Michael McBride, Marjorie Mathison Hance, Michael Allan Mallory, and John Heckenlaible. A great time! YouTube: https://youtu.be/zNM-g77tKlQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2H1JFptA5LBDMzKAHsJlu1?si=UnQ9yndqQm2q0DU3H55_nQ